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miners
Yeah so he calls himself a mug - AND he turned down his invitation to Kona - AND he's wearing a Trannies cap instead of his faithful and well-worn CR singlet. But for those of us who still think he's a legend, you can check out a short article about his IMOZ effort on Page 66 of the latest Triathlon & Multi-sport Magazine (Vol 9. issue 6)

Congratulations again Highway Man B)
alchemy
Geez.

I must be in a daze lately. I thought I'd scanned that issue front to back. Looks like a re-read is in order. I probably lost concentration after the article on VT and endurance sports.
miners
Incidentally Alchemy, there's another interesting photo on Page 76 of the mag too. It's a photo of Angela Milne, and it was taken during the Port Mac IM (despite the race report it relates to).

The reason why I know it was taken at Port Macquarie is that the other rider in the piccie is a local training mate of mine. Now if that wasn't interesting enough ( ;) ), the really good bit is the comparison you can make of the bike position between the two riders.

This is what I've been banging on about in my blog for the last month, and perfectly illustrates the inefficient, extended set-up as a consequence of just clamping tribars onto a road bike (my mate), and the correct aero position of the tri-geometry frame, the forward saddle position, and the lowered bar height (the lovely Ms Milne). Note the angle of the elbows in the 2 set-ups.

Thought it might be of interest to you :)
andyep
Though I also know that she's not on a Tri geometry frame... just Tri bars on a road frame?
Rooster
Hi Miners,

Thanks for the heads up on the article on Highway. Can't wait to read it. I am a couple of months behind on my magazine reading as I use it while I am on the wind trainer. HighwayMan certainly ripped up the course at IMOZ. A lovely bloke to add.

On bike setup there was an article on T & MS a couple of months ago by the fellow who setup Markallenonline.com. It was about bike setup and how it makes more difference that a more expensive bike. Great read. I will try and find the article and send to you.
foxtrotter
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This is what I've been banging on about in my blog for the last month, and perfectly illustrates the inefficient, extended set-up as a consequence of just clamping tribars onto a road bike (my mate), and the correct aero position of the tri-geometry frame, the forward saddle position, and the lowered bar height (the lovely Ms Milne). Note the angle of the elbows in the 2 set-ups.

Miners,

I have fallen into Triathlons in the past 6 months. I am really just learning so am really interested in your comments about the bike position. I get T&MS each month and looked at the picture on page 76 and can see exactly the difference in the setup. Where do you guys learn about this sort of stuff?? Is it from reading or talking to the local bike shop???
miners
Yeah fox - in my particular case, a good mate of mine who runs a local bike store (LBS) has been harping on to me for months to get a better set-up. My position pretty much mimicked that of my mate in the photo.

I've just undergone a tri-specific change to my set-up, and have blogged about it recently (and have bored most people to tears with updates since). In my case, the change-over was relatively simple as my Kestrel has been designed to easily convert between the two bike positions (as explained in my blog). Some of the Cervelo frames are designed in a similar fashion.

As others have mentioned, it can also be done with road-geometry frames as well - but it's not as simple as just putting on a pair of aero-bars (as the aforementioned photo illustrates). Saddle position, stem length/height, crank length and bar heights can also come into play, depending on the original set-up. The basic idea is to tilt the body forward and over the front wheel, but keep the same hip angle in relation to the pedalling position. Most basically, a forward saddle and lowered bar height can generally achieve this. If you're looking at that photo I referred to, my mate's bars are too high, and his saddle is too far back for example.

And Andy's right - Angela Milne is actually just riding a TCR Composite, which is more of a traditional road geometry frame, but with the correct saddle and bar position to allow an efficient aero set-up.

Incidentally, a lot of guys opted for a more road-geometric set-up for the IMOZ course in Port Macquarie as the hills were relatively more demanding than other IM courses (such as Forster and NZ). Melissa Ashton for example, was bugging my LBS mate in the last few months about what sort of bike she should use for the course. She eventually stuck with her Cervelo P3C in a standard aero position, but was dicing with the idea of using a Cervelo Carbon Soloist up until a month or so before the race.

Most reputable bike shops should be knowledgable enough to give you good advice on aero position. My LBS mate set me up on the wind-trainer for a few sessions, and we experimented with different set-ups, aerobar types etc... Valuable advice on set-up can also be gained at sites such as Australia's transitions or the US site slowtwits. As Rooster mentioned, the Aussie mags also have articles on this stuff from time to time B)

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